Lord’s Prayer An Issue In Salisbury

SALISBURY, Md. (AP) — City Council members in Salisbury are questioning whether to continue to start their meetings with the Lord’s Prayer as they have for more than 50 years.

Council members on Monday did not start with the traditional prayer but instead meditation. Members plan to further discuss the issue at next week’s work session.

Newly elected council member Laura Mitchell brought up the issue of the prayer after a request from a colleague.

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  • sheriff

    Keep God & state separate in all civil & political matters. Even Jesus said so himself.

    • Dale of Dundalk

      Can you show that to me in the Bible or is that just something that you believe he said?

    • denise pope

      I am in awe of how eveyone wants to remove God from all things until something goes wrong in there lives and than they want to know where he is?He is where you put him either in your heart everyday in every decision or he is in a book on a shelk you pull out on Sundays and Holidays.

  • Doug

    Keep your piney razor thin religious beliefs OUT
    of public schools and public buildings entirely
    WHY ?
    You people have gotten too whacky,
    and are mostly hypocrites anyway.
    Remember children,you don’t like Jews.hate Arabs,
    and yet you pray to a dead Arab Jew.

  • Karl

    Religion should be kept out of all public schools, and all government meetings. Not only did our founding fathers say to keep church and state seperate, it’s also just the common sense thing to do. Not everyone shares the same beliefs, and those who don’t shouldn’t be subject to having to sit through anyone elses. How would you feel if you were a Christaian and had to sit through a Muslim prayer before a meeting? Or an Atheist, who has to sit through anything.

    Dont pray in my school, and I won’t think in your church.

    • Sara

      What about the rights of people who want to pray? Our rights are being taken away from us and I will fight to make sure that doesn’t happen. I will proudly pray before meals if I am out in public and I will wear my miracoulous medal & cross around my neck. Noone has a right to tell me that I can not do these things….including my college. I pray before I eat my lunch & dinner at school and I don’t care if they like it or not. My rights will not be taken away……it’s in the Constitution. A little faith wouldn’t hurt anyone…that’s why the world is the way it is.

      • Karl

        First, a little faith IS why the world is this way… Religion has caused more deaths then any other single idea in history.

        On another note, no one is telling you that you can’t pray before you eat. Do what you gotta do. Were saying that an entire organization of people shouldn’t be forced to pray before a meeting. When you’re out eating, and you start to pray, do you make everyone else in the restaurant pray with you??

  • Frank from Parkville

    If you don’t agree with prayer in public forums – that’s fine. But DON’T invoke the Founding Fathers in your debate. This country was founded upon Christian values. Now, you can choose to deny that (which doesn’t make it false – it makes you an idiot) – or you can simply say that the USA has changed over the past 200 years. But to somehow, some way say that our Founding Fathers would be upset by this – well, you simply don’t know…anything!

    • ha ha

      Frank, the founding fathers were largely “deists”, not adhering to Christian beliefs, nor any other dogmatic systems of faith. There are plenty of websites where you can read quotes from Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, etc… that clearly state their reflections on the relationship between religion and government. Do a little research, you might be surprised.

      FOUNDING FATHER FUN FACTS: George Washington was an avid pot head and Ben Franklin saw no point to monogamy.

    • Karl

      You sir, are the idiot. Regardless of the values this country was founded on, they still had the intellegence to seperate church and state. If the country has changed in 200 years, then I suppose the whole world has changed in the 2000 years since the bible… does that mean we shouldn’t follow that either?

      And for the record, our founding fathers would be upset at a lot of stuff these days, and this is one of them.

      • Frank from Parkville

        I’ll agree the Founding Fathers would be quite upset today.

        We don’t want prayer in our schools – but daycare centers for 14 year old mothers is perfectly fine.
        We bend over backwards to protect the very segments of our society that are destroying this country.
        We allow one person’s discomfort to write (and in this case, re-write) the rules for everyone else – because we don’t want to offend them.
        We tolerate the intolerable. We accept the unacceptable. And then claim the Founding Fathers would have wanted it that way.

        It’s a disgrace.

        Answer me this – are we better off today than we were 50 years ago? Probably not. But we continue down this road of political correctness and pretend all will fix itself. Contrary to all the evidence.

  • JQP

    You can open every meeting in a public forum you like with your Christian prayer as long as each religion may also be represented in the same way…including but not limited to those of the Wiccan faith, Muslims, Vaisnavas, Jews, Pagans…etc… and if you think that is ridiculous, then you know how the rest of us feel.

    Every time the people in this faith do something like this they totally alienate people and destroy any chance they have of attracting possible converts. I am pretty sure God doesn’t need you to make a side show out of him…because that’s what you have done. You make people want to seek out your hypocrisy so they can throw it in your faces and then spit it all over the world via the Internet. Way to go! Way to make Christianity look so good! Way to make America look good… no wonder the world hates us….well, us and that “other” part of the world/religion that try to impose faith on their people.

    I just want you all to know this one thing: You can force a person to say they believe in anything you like, but you can’t make it true for them…only breed resentment. I’m sure God appreciates that, too.

    • JQP

      …OH, in fact, if you want to have prayer in schools because it can’t hurt (right?) that’s great, just make sure each child in each class has a chance to offer his or her prayer at the start of each class. And if there are children in the class who are Atheists, Deists, Pagans, etc… they must also be allowed to speak their minds at this point. You see, it is inappropriate to please — or dismiss — anyone in a publicly financed institution, because you legally open a door. In my faith, we sing and dance and play instruments at the beginning of any gathering. That ok with you?

  • ha ha

    Frank from Parkville…I already tried to address this once and my comment was not posted, so I’ll try again:

    50 years ago most men who were gay hid it and beat their wives.
    50 years ago Priests visited terrible violence on young boys, but the boys would never have been believed.
    50 years ago, you could beat your children senseless because, hey, they’re your kids, do as you see fit
    50 years ago, a frail old black woman had to give her seat up on a bus to a young healthy white man
    50 years ago, a woman suffered in silence because it was too humiliating to admit that she didn’t just “walk into a door”

    No, Frank, it is not better now than it was 50 years ago. In fact, we have the same exact issues, we just don’t keep them a secret anymore.

    And if you think that Christianity makes the world a better place, I would like you to take note that Christianity is the top religion among those practiced in this country today by an overwhelming majority. I think maybe this isn’t the right path after all.

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