Opponents & Supporters Begin Same-Sex Marriage Referendum Effort

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ) — The General Assembly passed it, the governor is expected to sign it, but will Marylanders vote on it?

Pat Warren has more on a possible referendum on same-sex marriage in Maryland.

Cardinal Edwin O’Brien denounces same-sex marriage and announces the Archdiocese will engage its 500,000 members in overturning this radical legislation.

Other churches will join the fray.

On the other side, Marylanders for Marriage Equality supporting same-sex marriage will ramp up their media blitz. After years of targeting state lawmakers, same-sex marriage advocates and supporters of traditional marriage take the fight to the people.

And it appears the people are ready to vote, and speak out.

“I think everybody should have an input,” one Marylander said.

“At least they feel they’ve done their part, and we don’t feel like everything’s in the government’s hands,” Paul Harrington, Jr. said.

“I think that we should have a say. I think we’re entitled to a say.”

“I think everybody should have a vote on it.”

“It doesn’t seem like a lot of times that the officials are doing what we– what the people– actually want. Just so the decision’s coming from the people and not the bureaucrats.”

Warren: “Would you sign a petition to put it on the ballot?”
Marylander: “Yeah.”

And there are those who believe voters should not sit in judgment.

“Nobody should judge anybody, period. Because who are you to say what someone else should do? It’s not right,” Tom Clonts said.

And that’s the message same-sex marriage advocates will be sending during the petition drive.

Gov. Martin O’Malley is expected to sign the bill legalizing same-sex marriage into law sometime next week.

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  1. tiredLiberal says:

    “Civil Unions” are the DOMAIN of GOVERNMENTS.
    “Marriages” are the DOMAIN of RELIGIONS.
    GOVERNMENTS …Get OUT of RELIGIOUS MATTERS !
    “GODS Marriage is between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN”

    1. D King says:

      WRONG! I know lots of people who are married and religion had absolutely nothing to do with it. It’s the domain of religion ONLY if you are religious.

      1. Ricci Adams says:

        Not so fast on calling marrage not religious. The problem is that religious organizations have their own beleif on Marriage. This religious marriage is a holy union. There are numerous individiuals that do not allow god in their marriage or even acknowledge the existance of God. I pray for these people; however, the problem with allowing gay marriages is that churches who do believe in gay marriage will be force to recognize Gay Marriage and allow it on their holy property. Gays have already won a federal lawsuite indicating that the United Methodist Church in New Jersey was acting against the law by not allowing a gay marriage on it own property. These laws will give fuel for gays to force their beliefs on religous institues and businesses that do not support gay marriages. Let us say that an individuals who is a devote Catholic owns a reception hall normally used for weddings and/or receptions. If the hall refuses a gay wedding or reception based on religous belief they can be sued. As proven in the Federal Lawsuit (where the New Jersey law indicated that Chruchs can refuse Gay Marrages), churches are not able to protect themselves from descrimination lawsuites based on their belief. This is destroying the basic Consitutional Freedom of Religion.

  2. Ricci Adams says:

    We need to stand up and create a consitutional admendment defining a marriage as a hold reunion between a man and a women.

    There are some things that are just wrong, and gay marriage is one of them. If a man who is infurtile wishes to mary his of age daughter who constents to the marrage the state would rightfully be in an uproar and Maryland would refuse the marrage. The same goes for a man marring a sheep. However, if a man wants to marry another man the state will accept it. Churches and Businesses, that hold wedding ceremonies will be forced to allow gay marriages.

    The church is the last moral institute standing, and they will surely be closed by gay lawsuites. Let the gays have their civil unions, but let the holy stay holy.

    1. D King says:

      Ricci – you sound like a religious fanatic. The church is the last moral institute standing?? Really? I think you find corruption in the church just as much as any other institution, they just have a whole lot more hypocrits.

      1. Ricci Adams says:

        I am not a religous fanatic, but I eat meat on Friday During Lent – it is the best time to goto a steak house – No Catholics or Hindus – means short lines. However, I do appriciate that the State Should not pass a law that the federal courts have already provine will give the gays the fuel they need to destroy religous institutions.

    2. None says:

      WHY do you people go straight for “sheep” in an attempt to prove a point? Clearly there is something wrong with you if that is the first thing you think of.

      1. Working Poor says:

        Ricci, I would love to see the federal case citation that you keep referring to as forcing a religion to hold a gay marriage ceremony against its religious beliefs. Last time I checked, there is plenty of case law to the contrary.

  3. Rev John Elder says:

    Amarrage is a Holy thing to do you take vows and to alot os Str8 couples they lie as they take them because alot of them are now on their 2nd and 3 and 4 th wife that word Holy means nothing to Str8 couples (alot of them) the church you speak of it is just a building we that go to that building are the church . So for GAY COUPLES GOD BLESS . OOOOOOOOO and yes I am one of them GAY COUPLES how has been with my partner now for 20 years

    1. Ricci Adams says:

      GOD BLESS YOU Rev Elder and Mr. Phlegar; however, your marriage would be folly. The purpose of Marriage is to allow for loving couples to procreate. Again in this day and age where sin is running a muck, marriage is like all that is holly is falling to the waste side. We give into our tendencies to think that we must allow and accept all, but in doing so we give up our values. Society as a whole is failing. Allowing gay marriage is just the next step to making Maryland the next Sodom. I am not against gays; however, they must learn to accept that a civil union allows them equal rights as couples that they would have in marriage, except tax breaks allowed to encourage procreation in str88 couples. If we allow gay marriages the religious institutes will also have to be forced to accept ideologies that go against their religious beliefs. The United Methodist Church was forced to allow gay marriages in New Jersey. Allowing gay marriages is going to give gays the power they need to destroy those that oppose through lawsuits. Herold and Caesar have won, and Christ is going to be crucified again.

      1. So Very Confused says:

        “The purpose of marriage is to allow for loving couples to procreate.”

        Ricci, I have a question for you then… IF the ONLY reason for marriage is to allow loving couples to procreate then I guess fertility testing must be a part of the marriage license and infertile people would be denied the right to marry as well?

        What about a woman who is past child bearing years and is widowed who meets a man and wants to marry him. They have NO INTENTIONS of procreating… I guess they have to not marry then either?

    2. Ricci Adams says:

      I am tired of people using the desecration of the sanctity of marriage by those who plague it with divorce, to further desecrate the sanctity of marriage.

  4. Ricci Adams says:

    A comment regarding the sancity of Gay Marrage – Arn’t most politians lawyers? Well they will seem to fair well in a couple of years. Per http://www.newsytype.com/8637-gay-divorce/, a couple of years after gay marrage was allowed in the UK, the rate of gay devorces increased greatly. Perhaps this is Maryland’s way of saving the lawyers who are in great dispear.

    1. None says:

      Before gay marraige, there would be ZERO gay divorce (no marriage means no divorce). Of course after it was allowed in the UK, it would go up. SMH

    2. Bill Johnson says:

      For God’s sake, Ricci, learn how to spell MARRIAGE!!!

    3. So Very Confused says:

      Perhaps the reason for the increase in gay divorces was that they finally allowed gay marriage. If there are no gay marriages there are no gay divorces.

      50% of all marriages end in divorce… just because a person is gay does not make them NOT human…

  5. tom tom says:

    now that martin has the full support of the gay community behind him all he has to do is get legislation from the whimps to legalize illegal aliens as voters and he will be a snap to progress with his political career. he will go down as the worst governor in the history of the corrupt democratic state of maryland. what a DISGRACE.

  6. Kay says:

    I think the government should be worried about more pressing matters that affect familes!!! Like the price of gas, and other tax issues. I can not believe they are getting paid to sit around and talk about this for days when I may not be able to afford to buy gas because it will soon cost $5.00 a gallon.

    1. None says:

      Get off the computer, get an education (or a 2nd one), and get another job. It is not his problem that you cannot afford life.

  7. tylerjake says:

    Ricci needs to learn how to spell and some basic grammar. She must be a product of Baltimore schools.

  8. James says:

    Ricci is 100% dead on!

  9. PAUL E. MICELLI says:

    @Ricci. . .you are Right. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. PATSY says:

    GOD SHOULD COME THROUGH HERE AND DO WHAT HE DID TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH

  11. H8NSBAD says:

    How many folks commenting have actually read the bill? Fact= No church is going to be forced to marry anyone or be forced to recognize anything. The religious freedoms of any church to choose who they will or will not marry, or which marriages they will recognize will not be infringed by this bill. As an example: the catholic church currently will not marry a catholic to a protestant. They certainly aren’t going to be forced to marry any same sex couples, and that is spelled out clearly in the bill! Read the bill! Furthermore a church hall or say the knights of columbus won’t be forced to rent out space for weddings they object to. That is also in the bill. Read the bill! I can see many people are getting very worked up for no reason. Read the bill! In reading through the comments above I see some blatant falsehoods. The most obvious is that a church in New Jersey is being sued over not marrying a same sex couple. Fact: New Jersey doesn’t have marriage for same sex couples. That should be obvious to anyone reading the news as their governor just vetoed their version of the bill last week. Children are not going to be taught marriage in school. It is not part of their current studies in Maryland and it is not part of this bill either. To the religious folks: I respect everyone’s right to believe and love their God as they choose. If you do not agree with same sex marriage and see a married same sex couple and want to call that a “false marriage”- do so. It is your right. Please be respectful of other faiths that will and do actively solemnize same sex marriages. People are and should be allowed to follow God as they choose. Only God can judge if same sex marriage is right or wrong and that will be between the same sex couples who enter into civil marriage and God. I personally ask only that people of faith be truthful and not bear false witness against your neighbors who do not share your specific beliefs.

    1. Mikeb says:

      I wish more people were like you H8NSBAD!

  12. Steve Wilson says:

    Fact: Marriage is not ONLY a religious matter. Civil marriages (a.k.a. civil unions) have been a fact for a very long time.

    Fact: No one is has EVER been forced to perform a marriage. Priests, pastors, judges, etc have ALWAYS been able to simple refuse to marry a couple.

    Fact: All this law does is give gay couples the same legal rights as any other couple. Something they should have had since the signing of the U.S. Constitution.

    Fact: The only reason gay couples have not been granted their Constitutional rights is the interference of churches in direct violation of the Separation of Church and State. Every church that involves itself in this matter should lose their tax-exempt status.

    Side note: Cardinal Edwin O’Brien has been directly contacting State delegates by phone. Something none of us are able to do. Not only is he violating of the Separation of Church and State, but he is now an agent of a foreign government attempting to illegally influence our lawmaking process.

    1. hahaha says:

      Steve So clerk of the court will NOT be required to perform gay marriage?

    2. Jennifer says:

      Well Steve,
      first of all there is nothing in the Constutuion that calls for a “separtion of church and state” Second, sodomy is not a right that any state or government that wants to thrive should embrace or justify. Those of us who also believe that Romans 1:27 is not a myth.

    3. Steve Wilson says:

      hahaha – The clerk of the court is not required to perform gay marriage. Neither is the clerk required to have a job with the court.

      Jennifer – You are Right, there is nothing in the Constitution that calls for a “separation of church and state”, therefore we should be taxing all church property. The “interpretations” of the First Amendment over the years have been unduly influenced by special interests (churches) to exempt them from taxes and laws.”…sodomy is not a right that any state or government that wants to thrive should embrace or justify.” Why? In a country of personal freedom, the only argument against sodomy is religious, and churches have been anti-freedom for thousands of years. It is their nature to have to control people. How else could they survive? If you want to believe Romans 1:27 is not a myth, that’s your right; but it is not your right to force others to believe in your myth (which, by the way, has no more supporting evidence than the flat Earth myth or the geocentrism myth.)

      1. hahaha says:

        steve your statement makes no sense

  13. hahaha says:

    Omally has p.o. ed some many people that they will vote against this just because he is behind it and people are looking for pay back

  14. richard perry says:

    we will over turn it in nov

  15. Jennifer says:

    Thank goodness enough of our delegates cared to allow this to go to referendum and allow the citizens of Maryland to vote. Go t http://www.MDPetitions.com to sign the petition that will allow your voice to be heard on this.

  16. Ronald Lee Norman says:

    Second, sodomy is not a right that any state or government that wants to thrive should embrace or justify… Remember this next time you are enjoying yourself with the husband or boyfriend

  17. Dave says:

    Im tired of hearing about same sex marriage and all the gay stuff. How much can the media talk about it? Im against same sex marriage but if It is going to happen great just leave us alone with these issue there are more important things to deal with

    Good articles on http://www.ariespost.com

  18. Mark says:

    repost H8NSBAD
    How many folks commenting have actually read the bill? Fact= No church is going to be forced to marry anyone or be forced to recognize anything. The religious freedoms of any church to choose who they will or will not marry, or which marriages they will recognize will not be infringed by this bill. As an example: the catholic church currently will not marry a catholic to a protestant. They certainly aren’t going to be forced to marry any same sex couples, and that is spelled out clearly in the bill! Read the bill! Furthermore a church hall or say the knights of columbus won’t be forced to rent out space for weddings they object to. That is also in the bill. Read the bill! I can see many people are getting very worked up for no reason. Read the bill! In reading through the comments above I see some blatant falsehoods. The most obvious is that a church in New Jersey is being sued over not marrying a same sex couple. Fact: New Jersey doesn’t have marriage for same sex couples. That should be obvious to anyone reading the news as their governor just vetoed their version of the bill last week. Children are not going to be taught marriage in school. It is not part of their current studies in Maryland and it is not part of this bill either. To the religious folks: I respect everyone’s right to believe and love their God as they choose. If you do not agree with same sex marriage and see a married same sex couple and want to call that a “false marriage”- do so. It is your right. Please be respectful of other faiths that will and do actively solemnize same sex marriages. People are and should be allowed to follow God as they choose. Only God can judge if same sex marriage is right or wrong and that will be between the same sex couples who enter into civil marriage and God. I personally ask only that people of faith be truthful and not bear false witness against your neighbors who do not share your specific beliefs.

  19. ??? says:

    We heard from the backers of gay marriage that 55% of marylanders supported the bill so the House and Senate should pass it .If this is true then why don’t they want the people to vote on it.If the referendum is successful in defeating this bill is it over or can it be brought up again sometime down the road.As for the religious protections , after the bill is approved the lawsuits will begin to shoot down these parts of the bill.

  20. Thank you! says:

    you guys are blind… Stay with your church and do as your church says, but don’t make that choice for others with different views

  21. Jayson says:

    WJZ-TV suppresses free speech. Only allows liberals free hand!

  22. chuck says:

    Sodomy is now legal in Maryland !

  23. MD Resident says:

    GROSS, GROSS, GROSS, TOTALLY SICKING! There is no place like maryland! Get ready to see thoes gross rainbow flags all over maryland!

  24. Working Poor says:

    If marriage is the domain of religions only, then all married couples need to file separately outside of their churches for a civil union license in order to receive marriage benefits FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Otherwise that would be the government partaking in religion.

    Last time I checked though, a Justice of the Peace can perform a marriage just as easily as any Catholic Priest. I say leave the religion out of politics like the Constitution said. How unpatriotic can people get.

  25. damon says:

    now now now look at what i see here everyone is against this welll this is a suprise i mean people decided that they wanted to take god out of schools and they turn their back on god but when they dont like something like as same sex marriage everyone is ready to jump on gods ban wagon and say on marriage is one man one women so please answer my question. why did you take god out of schools if you want him to be their to help stop same sex marriage in maryland? please comment

    1. D King says:

      OK, I’ll bite. Because not everyone believes in God and for those that do, not everyone believes in the same God. You’ve got a mix of children in school being raised by all kinds of different families with different belief systems. How can you pick just one religious viewpoint for schools? Let me guess, you think the Christian viewpoint is the one that belongs in schools. Well school is not church. School is for English, science, math, etc. — not religion. Go to church if you want to worship God! And by the way, I’m FOR the same sex marriage bill (and I am straight).

  26. Lou says:

    Will sign any petition that asks for this to be put before the people. SInce our representatives are not listening to us we need the referendum. Show me where to sign up. I’ll be glad to sign the petition!!! Put it to the whole nation and lets settle this thing once and for all and then get back to what really matters.

  27. H8NSBAD says:

    Maryland has marriage reciprocity. If a same sex couple is legally married in another state they are already recognized as married in Maryland. This has been the case for up to possibly ten years now. This has not affected anyone elses marriages, and I know of no church or religious institution that has been asked to, forced to, or sued in court to recognize an out of state same sex marriage here in Maryland. The only ones honestly affected have been the same sex couples who got married out of state or abroad and returned home. Most people don’t even realize same sex marriage already exists here by default. The change is that this bill will allow Maryland to perform same sex Civil Marriages right here in our own state. That would be the ONLY change. If it is voted down in November same sex marriage will not go away. The law would simply revert to the way it is today. Referendums don’t create new laws- they only invalidate newly passed ones. Seems like a big waste of money and time on all sides to take this to the ballot and stop same sex marriages from happening here if the same sex couples will merely go out of state after the vote to be married.

  28. chetta-ketta says:

    How about we move on WJZ? Drop this old news & let these fudge packers & Lezbo’s have at it themselves. I for one am tired of all the B.S. .rhetoric.

  29. baltimorechris says:

    Straight married and a minister…… we really have more pressing issues to deal with. Run a grammer checker on my post that should show we need to educate better. If you are against this really think about how this will affect you, likely it won’t. As a minister it’s up to me to decide if i want to marry a couple, sure they could go somewhere else or to a courthouse. I am sad that people have to even have this conversation.. On the upside think of the jobs that will be created!! I will marry same sex partners for free as soon as I legally can!!

    1. Afro-American for Marriage Equality says:

      Wow. Thank you.

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