This week on The Hard Truth with Ed Norris, journalist, author and television producer David Simon, most famous for being the creator of “The Wire,” joins the show.

Simon stopped by for a somewhat controversial conversation on the rising crime rate in America, “The Ferguson Effect,” the Black Lives Matter movement and more.

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The guys begin by discussing the fourth amendment: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

Simon calls it “a moving target” for police officers and even for the Supreme Court.

Simon and Norris also talk about policing in and around Baltimore and what has changed in the past few years.

“The police have slowed down their response on the street, meanwhile, the back end, they can’t solve a crime to save their lives. This is one of the worst clearance rates in the history of the Baltimore department,” says Simon. Norris commented, “guys are retiring because they don’t want to be here anymore. Rookies are being trained by guys with just three years on the job.”

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According to Simon, it’s solid training, good investigating and the ability to be proactive versus reactive that would make all the difference in the crime rates.

On a lighter note, Simon discusses his newest television project ‘The Duece’ which is due out this summer.

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