Md. Immigrant Tuition Foes Clear Petition Hurdle

HAGERSTOWN, Md. (WJZ) — There was news Tuesday on two fronts of the immigration tuition issue.  Opponents of the bill that allows undocumented students to pay in-state tuition have gathered enough valid signatures to move forward in their drive to put the matter to the voters.  At the same time, supporters of the measure are celebrating a U.S. Supreme Court decision Monday.

Political reporter Pat Warren has more on the implications for Maryland.

Maryland’s undocumented students cheered the state’s decision to let them pay the lower tuition reserved for legal residents.  Advocates believe the U.S. Supreme Court decision Monday not to hear a challenge to California’s in-state tuition law means Maryland’s law will withstand legal challenge.

Representatives of Casa de Maryland have said all along granting the lower tuition rates to undocumented students is good public policy.

“We have a lot of people who support it and it’s going to benefit the state a lot,” said one.

Mark Garber, associate dean of law at the University of Maryland, says the decision to pass on the California case could have different meanings.

“There may be an inference the court is making: if it doesn’t concern Congress, it shouldn’t concern us,” Graber said.

The Supreme Court may also act if federal court rulings are split.

“If we have one federal court saying you can do it and one federal court saying you can’t do it, there will be a lot of pressure for the Supreme Court to step in,” Graber said.

Organizers of the petition drive to put the issue to Maryland voters intend to apply some of that pressure.

“For those advocates for illegals who think this is wonderful, I’m going to tell you two things.  Number one, we’re gonna get a law in front of the Supreme Court; they’re gonna rule 5-4 against illegals.  Number two, the petition is gonna win.  It’s going to referendum.  We’re going to kill the bill in Maryland and we’re gonna kill it in the United States,” said Delegate Pat McDonough.

The Supreme Court decision may have settled immigrant tuition in California, but apparently as far as Maryland is concerned, everything is still on the table.

The State Board of Elections has validated nearly 20,000 signatures on the petition for referendum but thousands more are still needed.

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  1. edh says:

    I wonder why the media hasn’t bothered to validate the information and statements made by those who sponsored this petition. I am all for the people having a say, but it is fraudulent to gather such a petition without providing the sources of information offered as to the reasons why a petition is needed. I have made several attempts and the sponsors can’t even show enough courtesy to let me know that they received my requests. What are they hiding?

    1. DB of Joppa says:

      Why the petition is needed? Your kidding, right? Your tax dollars are being used to lower college tuition costs for children of illegal aliens and your ok with that? Annapolis passed this legislation & Owe Malley signed it into law. We, as citizens, have the right to challenge such action through petitions to secure a referendum.

      “it is fraudulent to gather such a petition without providing the sources of information offered as to the reasons why a petition is needed” What fraud has been committed? The sponsors of the petition don’t like the law & want it over turned through referendum, as is our right. Where, I ask WHERE, is the fraud in that?

    2. pigeon says:

      Sorry, but you can’t really be serious!

    3. joe says:

      It is not fraudulent to have a petition, it is a legal right. There is nothing being hidden. The petitioners don’t like in state tuition for illegal immigrants so they want to put a stop to it using a legal remedy.

    4. lynn says:

      Say WHAT???? Are you an insane or just limited intellectually? The petition has information on it BUT MORE importantly the debate has been waged in the media, in the legislature. Where were you???
      They do not have time to hold the hands of everyone who sent their petition in. If you need a personal we got it then you should have walked it down to the office!!!!!!!!! I swear some of us are simply out of the logical loop. That would be Y.O.U.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    5. Jackie Auburn says:

      EDH.. they do validate info. It is on the back side of every petition that we gladly recommend they read.. The sponsors of this petition are taxpayers.. Are you one of them?

    6. Can't Fix Stupid says:

      I receive emails from Kipke and McDonough all the time. Maybe it’s your attitude.

  2. Kathleen N. says:

    Response for edh: Where are you trying to get info. from? I have contacted the sponsors and they have gone out of their way to respond to me. As far as the media, evidently you haven’t been reading or watching the news. It’s all over the place. It’s even listed on this page where you just left a comment.

  3. Ann Campbell says:

    They are hiding the fact that this bill only applies to servicemembers that have dependants that are illegal immigrants. I found the sponsers wedsite and read the original bill that this address and the instate tutition portion is only applicable to dependents of servicemembers. If their parents can serve our country the least we can do is help them get an education so they don’t end up on our welfare roles. I am stanchly anti illegals, but this petion makes it sound like every illegal would be eligable for instate tutition and that is not the case.

    1. pigeon says:

      I think you are incorrect; or we have read different bills. If I’m wrong then somebody needs to correct this entire mess; however, I don’t think I am, not that I couldn’t be. One of us has been sadly misinformed, or we have problems with reading comprehension. What I learned about this entire situation came “directly from the horse’s mouth”, so to speak. And, just how many of our service personnel have illegal immigrant dependents that are even old enough to attend college?
      CBS and WJZ need to print the entire bill for everyone to read (AND QUICKLY).

    2. lynn says:

      WRONG. That is NOT the purpose of the law the Dumbocrats passed and O’Murder signed. Is is NOT JUST for servicemembers. What are you people smoking? I mean seriously. WHAT? I may want some so I can stay in a fog as well.
      Do you think the children here illegally would have been cheering and overjoyed if this bill was ONLY for servicemember’s and their families. GET REAL PLEASE. Or, have someone read the bill to you who does not have blinders on.
      And, if you and others were soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo concerned about our service people this state would not have denied rights to Gay soldiers and citizesn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, you would rather embrace those here ILLEGALLY…………….than those born here.

    3. Jackie Auburn says:

      Ann, That is so not true. I advise you to read the back of any petition for the facts.. Md taxpayers have no choice in supporting their children, usually from birth to grade 12. Should we support them through college? Md taxpayers pay $1billion a year to educate the children of illegal aliens who quite often have in excess of 5 children compared to 2 for citizens.. Can you child go to a european country and get college subsidies? Can your child go to va tech and get instate tuition? If you read the bill on casa de md site, they are known to lie or hide facts.. Same thing.

  4. Gene says:

    In state tuition IS just another form of welfare, and don’t kid yourself, this is nothing more than Owemally trying to win the Latino vote. Where’s the job creation and economic recovery efforts?

    Tax and spend… had enough of these BS politicians yet?

  5. pigeon says:

    Let’s keep those signatures coming!
    Go to mdpetitions.com!

  6. sheriff says:

    Good news on the progress thus far. United we can send a strong message on many bills being shoved down our throats just to get these Pols reelected. That’s what it’s all about a perpetual cycle of living large with a free EZ-pass, expense accounts, nice retirement & all that you can have deposited in an offshore bank acct. by developers & other special interest groups. No more in state tuition for pepper bellies & keep the tolls to a minimum. The bay bridge can go up a total of $1.00 no more for a total of $350. All others stay the same & have it indexed to the recovery or CPI.

  7. Doug says:

    So we all agree.
    Give the illegals the options of
    A. Being driven back over the border at gunpoint
    B.Becoming free sex slaves to the American tax payers of Maryland
    C.Making Soylent Green wafers out of them.

  8. JLP45 says:

    iT ALL STARTS WITH THE FEDERAL DEPT. OF iMMIGRATION NOT ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE LAND,CONRESSMAN AND A PRESIDENT WHO REFUSES TO OBEY THE CONSTITUTION AND AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO IGNORES ALL OF IT. PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY DO NOT DESERVE BREAKS.
    THOSE THAT THINK THEY DO SHOULD CHANGE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS BY PETITION OR PASSING NEW LAWS !!!
    UNTIL THEN WE SHOULD OBEY THE LAWS WE HAVE.
    WHEN ARIZONA OFFERED TO HELP ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS THEY WERE QUICKLY SET UPON BY THE FEDS, BUT WHEN MARYLAND WISHES TO AID ILLEGALS THAT’S OKAY.
    TRY GETTING A BREAK IN MEXICO BY GOING THERE ILLEGALLY SEE HOW FAR YOU GET.

  9. sheriff says:

    I can’t stand the snarky sniveling slimy pricks any more than the street thug porch monkeys. They all came from the same ape parents……Long on the tool way short on brains.

  10. whatnow says:

    Doug – I pick Option A.

  11. Blueberry says:

    I think what the real problem is that a lot of people don’t know the facts about this bill (including me). If this bill is for service member’s children, then I’m all for it. I’m all for the American dream but where do we draw the line. If you want the benefits of this country you have to pay into the system just like everyone else.

    1. Jackie Auburn says:

      Not service members children.. They are taken care of..

  12. sheriff says:

    We should not have to pick up the children of servicemen’s education. I used the G.I. bill & I paid for my kids. The servicemen already have a tuition grant of $25k which is enough to get them through community college & a in state univ. such as Towson, Md, Morgan etc…..We don’t need socialism we need to cut government spending & now pay for two wars people.

  13. Herman Glimsher says:

    I CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE THIS TOPIC IS UP FOR DEBATE…………………THIS IS A NO-BRAINER……………..ILLEGALS AND THEIR CHILDREN AREN’T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING HERE………………THE FACT THAT OUR LAWMAKERS THINK THEY DESERVE IN-STATE TUITION IS MORE PROOF THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD ALL BE IMPEACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Mike says:

    What we need now is a referendum to stop giving TAX money to the ILLEGAL casa de maryland.Oh that’s right, this is The Third World Sanctuary State of Maryland.

  15. Jackie Auburn says:

    SUPREME COURT ALSO RULED THAT E-VERIFY MUST BE USED FOR ALL EMPLOYERS.. WONDER IF MARYLAND WILL IMPLIMENT THIS RULE? O’malley, IMPLIMENT E-VERIFY AND LET THEM ILLEGAL ALIEN COLLEGE KIDS AND THEIR PARENTS FIND WORK IN MEHICO!!

  16. independent says:

    Calling people names reflects badly on the commenter, not the target group. If you want to influence readers, you can, but not by stating human beings deserve to be slaves or any other offensive statement.

    Illegals should not even be here, so let’s stick to the subject.

    1. Williejoe says:

      Independent, You are correct but as with every movement there comes a time when sticks & stones along with names is a conduit for venting anger. Now STFU & GFY. OK?

  17. Kathleen says:

    What part of ILLEGAL don’t folks get?

    I worked two jobs to raise two children ~ LEGALLY (their Dad passed away)
    Why should I have to pay for the children of ILLEGALS? Hey O’Malley,
    with all the extra TAXES, I’m outta $$!!!

    Go to MDpetitions.com
    Follow the directions carefully
    Sign the petition and send it in!

    1. williejoe says:

      You give em hell Kathleen & good luck. You’re a strong woman with morals, the very ingredient missing with illegals & Ghetto trash.

  18. JIM says:

    GOOD LET THE PEOPLE MAKE THE THE CHOICE IN 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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